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| message from Jack Zucker on 1997/07/11 |
I know...Check dejanews. Well, I did and there were only a few articles.
I looked at both of these machines today and I really fell in love with
the Dewalt. It seems extremely well made and I don't really need the
"free" stand. The salesman seemed to think that the Dewalt was better
for "inside" work and more delicate cuttings while the Delta was better
for more heavy duty use. After looking at both saws, I'm not sure what
would make the Delta a better saw for heavy duty use (whatever that
means...)
At any rate, I'd like to get some other opinions.
-Jaz
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| Warren59 replied to Jack Zucker on 1997/07/12 |
Jack,
I have both the Delta Q3 (15 months old) and the new DeWalt (3 weeks old).
Today I placed an ad in my local paper to sell the Delta. The DeWalt
for inside fret work is a jewel. Threading the blade in from the top of
the work and then attaching the blade to the bottom holder means that you
never have to lift the work of the table, saving a lot of time. Getting
the feel for attaching the blade to the bottom without looking takes just
a little time to get use to. The Delta is no more of heavy duty then the
DeWalt. NOW HERE IS THE KICKER. All saws delta Q3, DeWalt, Hegner, RBI,
and excalibur will have excessive vibration unless mounted on a STEEL
stand or steel table ( no wood anywhere). When I first got my Q3 l put it
on a table made of 1 1/2" mdf covered in laminate and 2 x 4 legs bolted
into the mdf board, it vibrated like a dancer. I put it on its stand and
it is vibration free. The DeWalt on the same table acted the same way, on
its stand it is vibration free. The point is GET THE STAND, the DeWalt is
that much better of a saw then the DeltaQ3 that it is worth the money.
The DeWalt is quieter, the air blower is better, the blade changing system
is better, for fretwork its way above the delta, the table is larger, and
the controls are better. The large on/off switch can be operated with
your finger while the palm of your hand releases the tension getting ready
for the next inside hole.
My Home Depot matched William Alden's price of $474.95 (in the catalog its
listed for $449.95 but that has increased).
Got any more question, email me,
Warren Kafitz
Belmont NC
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| Bill Grumbine replied to Jack Zucker on 1997/07/12 |
I got to examine the DeWalt very briefly last week at a demo presented
to our guild. I will get a chance this coming Monday to spend a few
hours on one before before I put my money down. I have spent some time
on the Delta, both at a friend's house and at a local store, so I can
give you some feedback in a few days (if you can wait that long). I
have been waiting since January, when I had the money for the Delta in
my hand, and then heard about the DeWalt coming out and was advised to
wait by people whose opinion I respect. It has been driving me crazy,
but at least the end is in sight. Report to come...
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| Anthony Foremski replied to Jack Zucker on 1997/07/12 |
I have a Dremel, never again!
check out the Ryobi. It does not vibrate & is very quiet. I personally
have not tried the Delta or DeWalt, but DeWalt is Black & Decker and Ive
been told not too good any more.They used to be a very good med.priced
tool but not any more. This only what Ive picked up oh in talking to
different salesmen.
Bonnie
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| Bill Grumbine replied to Anthony Foremski on 1997/07/12 |
Please permit me to disagree politely with your assertion that DeWalt is
Black and Decker. This is no more true than saying a Cadillac is a
Chevy. B&D owns DeWalt, but DeWalt tools are a whole lot more that B&D
painted yellow. There are two distinct tool lines offered. B&D is
aimed at the occasional user who is not going to demand a lot from a
tool either in prolonged usage or in expectations of ease of use as
related to quality. DeWalt is aimed at the professional market and
people who don't mind spending more money for better quality which is
manifested in longer life and better(read easier to achieve)accuracy.
To dismiss DeWalt as nothing more than Black and Decker makes many of us
out there to be complete idiots incapable of recognizing quality. If it
were B&D in disguise, how come so many pros use their tools? DeWalt
tools as compared to B&D tools offer stronger casings, more power,
better bearings, and overall much heavier construction.
DeWalt works hard IMO to address the needs and wants of the professional
market. When they came to our woodworking guild meeting last Tuesday,
one of the marketing guys took me aside and asked me a bunch of
questions about my usage patterns for hand held jigsaws: how often did
I use one, what kind of materials did I cut, what features were
important to me, whose did I use now, etc. Then he pulled out a cobbled
together prototype of a cordless jigsaw and asked me if I'd consider
using one. This is not the way a mass marketer works. Mass marketing
(B&D) starts with a price point that people are willing to pay and
packages a tool to fit that price. Out of the thirty or so people at
the meeting, one two or three of us were interviewed, not because we are
experts, or even pretend to know what we are talking about, but because
we endeavour to earn a living with our tools, and this is the target
market of DeWalt.
Good work can be done with B&D tools. I cut wood on a B&D 8" table saw
for years. It was a piece of junk, but with patience and experience it
would cut a perfectly straight line. Now I have a much better saw that
cuts the same straight line, but a whole lot faster and with less
aggravation. Better work can be done faster with a DeWalt tool because
it is built for it.
As a final disclaimer, I have absolutely no connection with DeWalt at
all beyond owning a few of their tools and lusting after a few more. In
fact, they probably have my picture on the dart board after I pestered
them with a lot of hard to answer questions at their demo. I do have a
sales background too, and most salespeople are unabashed liars who will
say anything to get their product into your hands and your money into
their pocket.
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| Anthony Foremski replied to Jack Zucker on 1997/07/12 |
When checking out the scroolsaws check on vibration & noise, very
important to me.
Also how easy it is to oil them.If their mounted its very difficult to
oil them if holes are on the sides of machine, or you will be
dismounting them quite often.
Bonnie
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